Stephen Cootey; Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President, Treasurer; Red Rock Resorts Inc
Barry Jonas; Analyst; Truist Securities, Inc.
Good afternoon and welcome to Red Rock Resorts third quarter 2024 conference call. (Operator Instructions) Please note this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Stephen Cootey, Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer, and Treasurer of Red Rock Resorts. Please go ahead.
Thank you, operator, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us today on Red Rock Resorts third quarter 2024 earnings conference call. Joining me on the call today are Frank Fertitta, and Lorenzo Fertitta, Scott Krieger, and our executive management team.
I would like to remind everyone that our call today will include forward-looking statements under the safe harbor provisions of the United States federal securities laws. Developments and results may differ from those projected. During this call, we also discussed nongaap financial measures. For definitions and complete reconciliation of these figures to GAAP, please refer to the financial tables in our earnings press release, form 8-K, and investor deck which were filed this afternoon prior to the call.
Also, please note that this call is being recorded.
Let us start off by stating that the third quarter represented another strong quarter for the company by any measure. In terms of net revenue and adjusted EBITDA, our Las Vegas operations had their best third quarter in our history while offering at near record adjusted EBITDA margin in the quarter. In addition to showing strong financial results in the quarter, we continue to be pleased with the financial performance of our Durango Casino Resort.
Durango continues to grow the Las Vegas locals market as the team continues to execute and improve the property's operational performance, while at the same time, driving incremental play from our existing customers and attracting new customers to our brand.
With three full quarters under our belt, the property increased visitation and net theoretical wind in the surrounding Durango area by approximately 91% and 92% respectively while signing up over 70,000 new customers to our database. Durango continues to ramp up and remains on track to become one of our highest margin properties as well as generate a return of approximately 15% net of cannibalization through its first year of operation.
Cannibalization remains in line with our expectations and its impact is primarily felt at our Red Rock property. Consistent with our past performance history, we expect to backfill this revenue over the next couple of years, given the strong long term demographic growth profile of Las Vegas Valley. And in particular within the Sunland area which between downtown Summerlin and the Sunland West communities, we expect to have approximately 34,000 new households upon final buildout.
As stated on our last earnings call, we are planning to move forward with the expansion of our Durango property later this year. Our current plans for the next phase of Durango will add over 25,000 square feet of additional casino space including a new high limit slot and bar area. In total, the expansion will add 230 slot machines to the Durango Casino floor, including 120 slot machines dedicated to our new high limit room.
In addition to the expanding casino space, we will be adding an additional covered parking garage with almost 2,000 convenient parking spots, significantly improving customer access to the property while providing us flexibility for future expansions at Durango. The current budget for the project is approximately $116 million and the expansion is expected to take around 12 months to complete. We are expecting some disruption to the south side of the property during the construction period.
Regarding the rest of the portfolio, we remain operationally disciplined within the quarter and continue to execute on our core strategy of reinvesting in our existing properties to deliver fresh and relevant amenities to our guests, all while remaining focused on best-in-class customer service. As we return to a more traditional seasonal pattern, the company continues to manage our expenses, generate record financial performance, maintain near record margins, reinvest in our properties and return capital to our shareholders in the quarter.
Now let us take a closer look at our third quarter. With respect to our Las Vegas operations, our third quarter net revenues was $464.7 million up 13.9% from the prior year's third quarter. Our adjusted EBITDA was $202.6 million up 5.8% from the prior year's third quarter. Our adjusted EBITDA margin was 43.6%, a decrease of 333 basis points from the prior year's third quarter.
On a consolidated basis, our third quarter net revenue was $468 million up 13.7% from the prior year's third quarter. Our adjusted EBITDA was $182.7 million up 4.3% from the prior year's third quarter. Our adjusted EBITDA margin was 39% for the quarter, a decrease of 353 basis points from the prior year's third quarter.
In the quarter, we generated operating free cash flow of $46.4 million or $0.44 per share. This brings our year-to-date cumulative free cash flow to $292.6 million or $2.70 per share. This significant level of year-to-date free cash flow was either reinvested or a long-term growth strategy, reinvested into our existing properties or returned to our stakeholders via debt pay down, share repurchases, and dividends.
As we finish the third quarter, we remain focused on our core local guests as we continue to grow our regional national segments across our portfolio. When comparing our results to last year's third quarter, we continue to see strong visitation and carded slot play across the majority of our database including our regional and national segments.
This strength coupled with a strong spend per visit across the majority of our database allowed us to enjoy near record revenue and profitability across our gaming segments in the quarter. Turning to non gaming segments, both our hotel and food and beverage continue to grow year over year and deliver record revenue and profitability in the third quarter.
Our hotel division experienced its highest third quarter revenue and profit in our history driven by the team's success and continued to drive higher ADR while maintaining occupancy across our hotel portfolio. Not to be outdone, our food and beverage division also experienced its highest ever third quarter revenue and near record profit driven by higher average check and cover counts across our food and beverage outlets.
With regard to our group sales and catering business. As mentioned on our last earnings call, we face a tough third quarter comparable and expect to face tough comparables for the remainder of the year. As we look forward to the fourth quarter of them playing unlucky in sports in October and the previously discussed softness in our group sales and catering business lines, we are seeing strength and stability in our core slot and table business in the locals market and across our car of database as we remain confident in our business prospects moving forward.
Now, let's cover a few balance sheet and capital items. The company's cash and cash equivalents at the end of the third quarter was $117.5 million, and the total principal amount of outstanding was $3.48 billion resulting in net debt of $3.35 billion. As at the end of the third quarter, the company's net debt to EBITDA ratio remained flat at 4.2 times.
Also, during the third quarter, we made a distribution of approximately $72.8 million to the LLC unit holders of Station Holdco, which included a distribution of approximately $42.4 million to Red Rock Resorts. The company used the distribution to make its required tax payment and pay its previously declared dividend of $0.25 per class A common share. Capital spend in the third quarter was $80.4 million, which includes approximately $47.4 million in investment capital, inclusive of Durango project retainage as well as $32.9 million in maintenance capital.
For the full year 2024, not including the spend to close out our Durango project, we now expect capital spend to be between $185 million and $195 million spread between maintenance and investment capital. We also remain committed to strategically investing and offering new amenities to our guests in order to drive incremental visitation and spend to our properties.
Last month, we successfully opened a yard house restaurant at Sunset Station. But we are in early days, we are pleased with the guest response and the early results from this new amenity. We expect to continue to invest in our existing properties throughout 2024, including adding local favorite, China Mama, at our power station property later this year.
In addition to these amenities, we expect to make investments in both our Sunset Station and Green Valley Ranch properties of 2025. At our Sunset Station property, we are building up the success we are seeing with our recently renovated race and sports book and partial casino remodel by continuing to refresh the podium in order to better position the property to capture the continued growth in Henderson, including the master plan communities of the sky and cadence, which are expected to add over 12,500 new households upon the final completion of both communities.
As part of this project, we'll be adding in an all new country western bar, a new Mexican restaurant, an all new center bar along with completely renovated casino space. Work has already commenced on this project and the total cost of the renovation is expected to be approximately $53 million.
At our Green Valley Ranch property, we're expecting to start a complete refresh of our room product. Aligning the hotel with our most recent renovations made to our well received high limit table and slot room rooms of the property. Work is expected to start in June of 2025 and will continue through November of 2025. The cost of the room renovation is expected to be approximately $150 million.
Like our other recently introduced amenities, we expect these to be solid investments are looking forward to moving beyond the disruption challenges of these properties as we introduce these new amenities to our customers next year.
Turning now to North Fork. We are extremely excited about this project, which is situated on a 305 acre site located North of Fresno, California. With great ingress egress off the heavily traveled highway 99, the project is in is one of the most convenient and accessible locations in central California with over 5.8 million people located within two hours of the development site.
When complete this best-in-class resort will include approximately 100,000 square feet of casino space with over 2,400 slot machines including 2,000 class three games, 42 table games and two food and beverage outlets, and a food court with many exciting options. We have started site work in construction as we continue to finalize design. The total construction time for the project is currently anticipated between 18 to 20 months, putting the opening of the resort into 2026.
The current cost of the project is expected to be approximately $785 million which includes all design costs, construction hard and soft costs, preopening expenses and any financing and development fees associated with the project. We are excited to be making progress and we'll continue to provide further updates on our quarterly earnings calls.
Lastly, the company's Board of Directors had declared a cash dividend of $0.25 per Class A common share payable on December 31 to Class A shareholders of record as of December 16, when we combine our share purchases with our special and regular dividends, as well as we have returned approximately $194.8 million to our shareholders in 2024.
The company continues to have a strong year, and Durango continues to validate our long term growth strategy and demonstrate the power of our own development pipeline and real estate bank which consists of over 450 acres of developable land positioned in highly favorable areas across the Las Vegas Valley.
This pipeline coupled with our current best in class assets and locations, gives us an unparalleled growth story that will allow us to double the size of our portfolio and capitalize on the very favorable long term demographic trends and the high barriers to entry that characterize the Las Vegas locals market.
We would like to recognize and extend our thanks to our team members for their hard work. Our success starts with them and they continue to be the primary reason why our guests return time after time. Thanks again for voting as top casino employer in the Las Vegas Valley for the fourth consecutive year as well as being certified by great place to work for a third year in a row. Finally, we thank our guests for their loyal support each of the last six decades operator.
This concludes our prepared remarks, and we are now ready to take questions.
Operator
(Operator Instructions)
Joe Greff, JP Morgan.
Joseph Greff
Good afternoon, guys. Looking back at the performance in the 3Q, is there anything that you would call out as sort of one time or kind of a unique trend change outside of the normal seasonality, whether that's extreme heat or renovation disruption? And maybe a sort of directional or mathematical way of answering it is if you look at the performance of Durango less Red Rock cannibalization, how did the rest of the portfolio perform? I know in 2Q, you basically mentioned that the $30 million year-over-year EBITDA results was basically Durango net of Red Rock cannibalization with the balance portfolio flat, if you can answer it in that way. And then I have a quick follow up.
Stephen Cootey
Hopefully it's just quick, Joe. Let me start with the first bit of questions. There's no real unusual items throughout the quarter other than just that return of that typical third quarter seasonality. For example, if you look at past years in 2019, Q2 to Q3 was down almost 19%. So when you kind of look at Durango, what we talked about here is we expect to deliver about net 15% return on our investment in the first year investment. So it's actually higher than we promised. We actually promised 10%.
So when you do the quick math, you know, if you have an $800 million cost, that's implying a $120 million in net of cannibalization. When you apply some impact of cannibalization, what you end up getting is that the core portfolio was down low single digits in terms of revenue.
Joseph Greff
Great. And then margins 43.3% or 43%, what sort of expenses sort of drove that increase? And then, how do you think about flow through or margins going forward? Particularly as you know, we think about 2025 as you know, maybe being more of a reinvestment in existing assets kind of year. And maybe you can talk about '25 in terms of renovation, impact disruption that you might anticipate?
Stephen Cootey
In terms of just the margin, I'll just frame it very simply. I think about 150 basis points of that margin contribute to cannibalization. So revenue moving to our existing properties over to Durango. And then you couple that with lower revenues as part of the Q3 seasonality. And then we did -- we are bearing the brunt of minimum wage which costs us about $1.2 million for the quarter.
Joseph Greff
And then maybe we can touch on 2025 in terms of anticipated renovation impacts?
Stephen Cootey
Yeah, sorry about that. Sorry. So in terms of the renovation impact, if I run it down by property. So our initial estimates on GDR roughly about $11.5 million from an EBITDA impact, Sunset Station approximately $5.4 million, and then Durango about $5.9 million.
Joseph Greff
Thank you, guys.
Stephen Cootey
You're welcome.
Operator
Carlo Santarelli, Deutsche Bank.
Carlo Santarelli
Hey guys, good evening. Steve, obviously in the third quarter seasonality, as you said, kind of returned to normal. And when you go back and look at your model in particular the local segment, a lot of noise with palms and that stretch. How do you generally think about 4Q seasonality relative to 3Q? And obviously acknowledging the moving parts of the stub period of Durango last year, you know, makes that a little bit harder for comparability, but just thinking about 3Q relative to 4Q seasonality.
Stephen Cootey
Well, you got a couple of factors in here, Carlo. But in general, if you took a precovid year, taking out the noise of the palms, EBITDA up usually around 12%. But you have to factor in that. We did play a little bit, you know, unfriendly in terms of sports to this tune of about $7.6 million in October.
Carlo Santarelli
Okay. So think about it is kind of up $12 million, less almost 8 million bucks from the sports assuming that doesn't reconcile in November and December?
Stephen Cootey
Correct.
Carlo Santarelli
Okay. And then just -- this is just an item of -- just to clarify something. CapEx for the year. You, you said $185 million to $195 million. am I correct in? And that excludes Durango closeout, Durango close out for the year was about $95 million. Is that accurate?
Stephen Cootey
Yeah, Durango close up for the year is about 90 -- almost $97 million. We still have about a million dollars left to close that out.
Carlo Santarelli
Perfect. Thank you, guys.
Operator
Steven Wieczynski, Stifel.
Steven Wieczynski
Hey guys. Good afternoon. Steve, you mentioned that group sales have been a little bit softer than, than, you know, I think you guys have been expecting. Just wondering if you could give some more color on potentially what you guys think are driving that softness? If we look at the margin on, on that food and beverage line, you know, it's been a little bit lower than what we've been expecting over the last couple of quarters. Just wondering if that's, you know, somewhat due to that lower group business.
Scott Kreeger
Yeah, Steve, this is Scott. Let me take that one. We'll take it into two pieces, one group sales hotel and then we'll corresponding catering. When you look at the quarter, probably the most notable piece of the quarter, we still are digesting a tough comp year over year as it relates to COVID rebooking. So there's about $1 million of good news in last year's number relative to COVID rebookings. If you were to add that in and adjust, we're basically flat when it comes to hotel sales room nights.
We expect that we're going to have tough comps into the fourth quarter and somewhat into the first quarter because of the Super Bowl as well in hotel. But if you look a little farther out to '25 and '26, we're very encouraged with our on the books pace right now as we go into those future years. And then catering really kind of mirrors the same effect as group room night sales does as well, where we're going to have a tough comp in the next two quarters and then better better outcomes into '25 and '26.
Stephen Cootey
And Steve, I answer that last follow up in terms of the softness you're seeing in F&B. It's exactly what Scott said, it's pretty predominantly all catering as F&B experienced a record revenue quarter.
Steven Wieczynski
Okay. Thanks for that guys. And then Steve, I understand you guys don't give formal guidance. But we start to think about next year in 2025, is there anything you would call out in terms of whether it's headwinds, whether it's tail winds or anything that would disrupt the normal cadence as we start to think about 2025?
Stephen Cootey
Yeah, I think what you're -- I mean from a group perspective, the entire company.
Steven Wieczynski
The entire company, sorry?
Stephen Cootey
Okay. I think the one we just talked about with graph is probably one of the bigger one time issues. You know, if you kind of add all that together, you're going to experience about $23 million worth of disruption. As we start the room and model at Green Valley contain the podium remodel at sunset and then we attach the garage to and the high limit room at Durango. That's really -- those are really the big one-time items.
Scott Kreeger
You're going to go off to get Super Bowl in Q1 --
Stephen Cootey
A couple others, like --
Scott Kreeger
I think generally, it is important to note that I think most, all the operators have said that Q3, the seasonality seems to have come back. It is a bit of a challenge. But October has bounced back and is very stable both on slots, table games, sports handle, right? Obviously, the whole percentage due to the NFL hasn't been great, but our core business feels good going into Q4.
Steven Wieczynski
Okay. Thanks for the color guys. Appreciate it.
Operator
David Katz, Jefferies
David Katz
Evening everyone. Thanks for taking my question. Can we just dive into the Super Bowl comps a little bit? It came up a couple of times. Was the Super Bowl volume levels in terms of hospitality strong. And you know, perhaps the the sports betting was not? What's the hard part and what's the easy part within the Super Bowl piece?
Lorenzo Fertitta
Well, this is Lorenzo, I think if you look at obviously, hotel food and beverage, things like that, not having the Super Bowl, it is going to be a tough comp versus last year. I would say of all the events that the city has had citywide events, whether it be f one you name it, I think Super Bowl was just a huge benefit to the overall city. And obviously, we benefited from that as well. Actually, I think we were, we lost money on the game. So that hopefully, it will not be a headwind or repeated but from a comp.
David Katz
I see. So the overall volume levels were very strong but the there was some sports impact.
Lorenzo Fertitta
It was negative last year. You know, historically, over time, we typically would win money to the Super Bowl and just, that last --
David Katz
Yeah, perfect. And just as my follow up, the last time we walked through Durango, we talked about sort of longer term with expansions, et cetera. You know, anything today that that would characterize how soon or what those expansions could or would look like when you'd get to them?
Scott Kreeger
Yes, David, this is Scott first. Just want to reiterate that the garage and casino and high limit expansion is really kind of a preliminary phase for Durango. We need to do that in order to set ourselves up for the optionality of the other two phases. As we look at those stages, we also compare our Greenfield opportunities as well.
I know we've spoken about Inspirato and Cactus as potential opportunities. I think what we want to do is we've got a lot of irons in the fire into the first and second quarter with the existing property remodels in the garage. Probably are going to want to see how the market is going into the first half of the year before we make a decision.
David Katz
I think that's fair. Thank you very much.
Operator
Stephen Grambling, Morgan Stanley.
Stephen Grambling
I guess when we think about the election and some of the policies that put it out there, aside from perhaps corporate taxes, what is on your radar that could impact your business?
Scott Kreeger
No tax on tips, I think would be a positive for our business.
Lorenzo Fertitta
Yeah, we've looked at some economic analysis, not, I don't know if anything has really been published on it. We think it could add somewhere in the neighborhood of about #200 million a year to the local economy here, which obviously we would benefit from.
Stephen Cootey
Yeah, I think it would save the company about $2 million to $3 million in payroll tax as well.
Stephen Grambling
That's helpful. And is there anything that's on the radar in terms of accelerated depreciation or other tax incentives for investment?
Stephen Cootey
I mean, I think we've accomplished that with Durango. That's our effective tax rates below 13%. And that's due to, I think some good work on the tax side for Durango. But you know, so my sense is that we'll look to do that on our Sunset asset as well in [PVR] and the Durango Garage, once they're put in service later in '25.
Stephen Grambling
Makes sense. Thanks. I'll jump back in the queue.
Operator
Barry Jonas, Truist Securities.
Barry Jonas
Hey, guys, you, you added a new slide in the deck on Cactus at the front of the new development pipeline section. Just curious where this stands in terms of what you'll be focused on next. Thanks.
Scott Kreeger
I think that as we look at all of our Greenfield projects, then the good thing about a lot of them is the population growth is getting to a maturity point where they're up for consideration. So when we look at cactus, it has different positive attributes than say Inspirato or Kyle Canyon site.
The specifics around Cactus are that it is a hybrid location. It sits on the Las Vegas strip as well as it is surrounded by a very lucrative local market as well. So it makes it a unique development opportunity because you can take advantage of the hybrid aspect of the property or the location. It would probably be something of larger scale than say an Inspirato. So we weigh the pros and cons of that capital contribution as well.
Barry Jonas
Got it, and then just are there any other tribal or non-Vegas deals you're looking at at the moment or is really the focus just your Las Vegas development pipeline?
Stephen Cootey
Well, no, I think we mentioned during the prepared remarks, we're incredibly excited about North Fork. So after working on this project over 20 years, we're in ground. Looking forward, we're in the throes of an 18 to 20 month construction period and.
Scott Kreeger
5.8 million people in a two hour drive. And we think we're going to have the dominant property in the market by far, the best designed and built product in the market
Barry Jonas
(multiple speakers) outside of North Fork.
Lorenzo Fertitta
Yeah, I mean, our core focus obviously is Las Vegas, Las Vegas locals. However, we do have a core competency of developing and managing tribal casinos. So in addition to North Fork, which Steve and Frank mentioned, we're in the ground with, it's a great location, we are active on the development side looking for new opportunities as we have been for the last 25 years on the tribal side.
But it's just got to be the right opportunity, the right timing, and it all has to kind of line up. But I mean, we've actively looked probably at five or six just over the last year, just we haven't found one that works for us yet, but we'll continue to look from a development standpoint.
Barry Jonas
That's really helpful. Thank.
Operator
Brandt Montour, Barclays.
Brandt Montour
Hello, everybody. Thanks for taking my question. I'm curious, we went through a lot of the headwinds next year, potential headwinds. Maybe we could talk a little bit about the tail winds, specifically, what you would typically see getting added back to Red Rock, mitigating that cannibalization you've seen so far in sort of a year or two as well as a Durango or a new Greenfield year-two growth before the construction disruption there?
Scott Kreeger
Yeah, this is Scott. Great question. If you take Red Rock first, we spoke in the past about Summerlin West, which is the final phase of the Howard Hughe Summerlin project. In its completion over the next few years, it'll add an incremental 34,000 households, just up behind the Red Rock location. So not only do we have a great story as it relates to household growth, but the average income in the area is one of the highest in the valley. And we continue to see growth in average income in that area. So we're optimistic about the Red Rock backfill in the near term.
When you look at Durango, Durango sits in what's called the enterprise district of the city. It is by far the fastest growing area of the city and probably has the largest amount of remaining buildable acreage in the surrounding area. So we're excited about Durango continuing to have its own growth story into the next year as well.
If you switch gears a little bit and you look at Sunset, it's one of the key reasons we're refreshing Sunset is the Henderson area around cadence has got quite dynamic growth, and we think we're going to see upside from that continued growth in that area of the Valley as well.
Brandt Montour
That's helpful. Thanks. Thanks for that. A second question. You know, the election is now behind us. You know, I can't remember it. Well, I'm sure you guys can remember, you know, elections that had distractions to your database and your players before. But have you gone back and looked at sort of how in your state, in the state of Nevada swing state, is that the activity pickup that you've traditionally seen postelection? And if you think you'll see a similar sort of pickup post this election.
Scott Kreeger
Well, when we looked at previous elections, there is definitely an impact if you will during an election year and quite honestly during an Olympics year as well. In previous years, it did drag on into December. But right now as Lorenzo said, we're pretty encouraged more at this point.
Stephen Cootey
Thanks, everyone.
Operator
John DeCree, CBRE Securities.
John DeCree
Good afternoon, everyone. You covered a lot of ground, maybe one on the promotional environment. Largely speaking across the locals market. I guess a couple of your peers have talked about it. Maybe stabilizing or a baiting, and I guess some of the single asset operators in the neighborhood have been a little bit more aggressive. So curious what you're seeing, if you think it's died down at all and or stabilized, and if it's had any impact one way or another on your business?
Scott Kreeger
Yeah, it remains unchanged in our view. And what we think is a stable rational environment that is very manageable.
John DeCree
Got it. Thanks for that, and maybe one for Steve, just maybe a clarification if I missed it on the CapEx for next year. I think I heard $150 million for [GVR] and was it $160 million for Durango? And then a quick follow up, Steve would be the disruption would--
Stephen Cootey
Yes, it was $116 million for Durango, (multiple speakers) [53] for Sunset.
John DeCree
The disruption that you've outlined, I appreciate that that's really helpful. The timing of those projects, should we expect that to kind of be kind of straight line throughout the year? Is there going to be a 1H or 2H, where maybe some of the heavier disruption occurs?
Stephen Cootey
Well, Green Valley is really going to be focused in that June to November period. So that one is really, you can really pinpoint. Sunset is most likely going to be throughout the year as the last construction project expected to come in line before, before at the end of the year. And Durango, I would say similar is probably in that middle part of the year is where the [Yeoman's] portion of the construction is being done.
John DeCree
Got it. Okay. Great. Thanks.
Operator
(Operator Instructions) Dan Pollitzer, Wells Fargo.
Hey, good afternoon, everyone. And thanks for taking my question first. You've talked a bit about taverns in the past. I mean, can you just give us an update on how you think about that element of your strategy in terms of CapEx or units that you expect to open over the next few years?
Scott Kreeger
Hi, it is Scott. Happy to say that a few weeks back, we opened our first tavern in the north part of town. So early performance is outpacing our expectations. So we're happy about that. We have two more coming online in the general area in North Las Vegas, which happens to be a very under penetrated area for us. We have a product coming online in January and then the third tavern coming online in June.
And then we have a total of seven opportunities and the remaining three will be scattered over the next year and a half. I think in large part we're attributing the early successes of the first t and because of the interlinkage of the boarding pass program, and the fact that we're relatively under penetrated out in that market.
Got it, thanks. And then just on the North Fork, the 4% development fee on that presumably the $750 million, do you receive that upon the property opening or is it -- along the way, do you get kind of pieces of that?
Stephen Cootey
Yeah, it's on the construction financing. And it's not going to be on the full $750 million, there's some puts and takes there.
Got it. Thanks so much.
Operator
Thank you, and this concludes our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to the management team for the closing remarks.
Stephen Cootey
Thank you everyone for joining the call and we look forward to talking to you again in about three months. Take care.
Operator
Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. We thank you all for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines and have a wonderful evening.