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Q4 2023 U-Haul Holding Co Earnings Call

Participants

Edward Joseph Shoen; Chairman of the Board, President & CEO; U-Haul Holding Company

Jason Allen Berg; CFO; U-Haul Holding Company

Sebastien Reyes; Director of IR; U-Haul Holding Company

James R. Wilen; President; Wilen Investment Management Corp.

Steven Ralston; Senior Special Situations Analyst; Zacks Investment Research, Inc.

Presentation

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the U-Haul Holding Company's Fourth Quarter Fiscal 2023 Year-End Investor Call.
(Operator Instructions)
Please note that this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Sebastien Reyes. Please go ahead, sir.

Sebastien Reyes

Good morning, and thank you for joining us today. Welcome to the U-Haul Holding Company Fourth Quarter Fiscal 2023 Year-End Investor Call. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that certain of the statements during this call, including, without limitation, statements regarding revenue, expenses, income and general growth of our business, may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the safe harbor provisions of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended.
Forward-looking statements are inherently subject to risks and uncertainties, some of which cannot be predicted or quantified. Certain factors could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected. For a discussion of the risks and uncertainties that may affect the company's business and future operating results, please refer to the company's public SEC filings and Form 10-K for the year ended March 31, 2023, which will be filed with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission this week. I'll now turn the call over to Joe Shoen, Chairman of U-Haul Holding Company.

Edward Joseph Shoen

Thanks, Sebastien, and thank you for joining us on the investor call for fiscal year 2023. As in prior times of declining consumer confidence, we have seen U-Move rental shift to less mileage and relatively more in town than one-way rentals.
The year-over-year decline in U-Move transactions compared to last year is comparing an outstanding year with a not so outstanding one. So in short, last year may not have been as good as it seems, and this year is not as bad as it seems. Last mile delivery rentals have declined as these companies adjust to the present realities.
I do not foresee a comparable year-over-year decline going ahead. We continue to have considerable competition in the truck rental business, but I believe we are more than holding our own. New truck acquisitions continue to be limited by OEM capacity. This is still driving repair expense.
Self-storage occupancy and the rate of [rent-up] are still solid, although below last year's highs. We continue to build and buy self-storage locations. I believe this is a good long-term deployment of capital.
However, management focused on blocking and tackling. We are holding our point-of-sale retail teams together in an increasingly contentious retail environment. I look forward to meeting with you on our Q1 investor call. I'll turn it over to you, Jason.

Jason Allen Berg

Thanks, Joe. Yesterday, we reported fourth quarter earnings of $38 million as compared to $87 million for the same quarter last year. And our full year earnings were $923 million compared to $1,123 billion for fiscal 2022. This was our second highest annual earnings in the company's history next to last year's results. Similar to what I did during the third quarter call, I'd like to provide some context to you regarding our equipment rental revenue results. Comparing the fourth quarter of this year to last year, we experienced a $43 million decrease, that's about 5.5%.
Last year at this time, we had reported a year-over-year increase in the fourth quarter of $79 million. And the year before that, $172 million increase for the fourth quarter. So if you compare our results this quarter, to our last, I'll call it, pre-COVID fourth quarter, which was March of 2020, we've increased our fourth quarter equipment rental revenue results by over $208 million, or if you were to average that out over the 12 years, it's about 12% a year.
What we've seen this year, and in particular, the fourth quarter, is a decline in transactions and the amount of miles driven on average per transaction. And as Joe mentioned, we saw a decline in the last mile delivery rentals during the year with the largest variances in the third and fourth quarters.
During fiscal 2023, we have invested $1.3 billion on new rental equipment compared to $1.1 billion for the fiscal year 2022. Much of this increase is attributable to inflation, along with increases in the number of new trailers, towing devices and U-Box containers that we produced.
For fiscal 2024, we are projecting gross fleet CapEx of just under $1.5 billion, which would help us improve the pace of our fleet rotation a bit. Proceeds from the sales of retired rental equipment increased by $86 million to a total of $688 million for fiscal 2023. Sales proceeds from the sales of pickups and cargo vans have increased compared to last year. We sold more of these units in fiscal '23 versus the previous year.
And sales prices, while historically strong, have steadily declined over the course of the year. We purposely slowed the sale of box trucks this last couple of years, but we expect that trend to reverse in fiscal 2024.
Similar to last quarter, self-storage results remained strong with some moderation showing through in speed of [rent up]. Storage revenues were up $28 million. That's a 17% increase for the quarter. And $127 million or 20% for the fiscal year.
We experienced a nearly 9% growth in average revenue per foot. Looking at our occupied unit count at the end of March, we had an increase of 52,000 occupied units compared to the same time last year. During that same time frame, we added 72,000 new units. It's this differential that led to our average occupancy ratio during the fourth quarter coming down by about 1.4% to 81.2% year-over-year.
The moderation in occupancy can also be seen in our same-store grouping of these properties with an occupancy decrease of about 1.5% to 94.2% for the quarter. We included a new self-storage disclosure in our press release this quarter, and I'd appreciate any feedback you might have.
During fiscal 2023, we invested just over $1.3 billion in real estate acquisitions along with the development of new self-storage and U-Box warehouse space. That's a $337 million increase over the previous year.
Over the last 12 months, we've added 6 million new net rentable square feet. We currently have about 6.7 million new square feet being developed actively across 155 projects. And then we have an additional 163 or so projects where we own the land or buildings but we haven't started the actual construction yet. That's up 43 projects from last year at this time.
That should result somewhere north of 9.6 million new net rentable square feet by the time we're done with that over the next couple of years. We added somewhere around 40 additional deals currently in escrow. That's a little less than half of what we had in escrow last year at this time.
Operating earnings at the Moving and Storage segment decreased by $39 million to $95 million for the quarter. And for the year, we were down $181 million to $1,396 billion for the fiscal year. This is also the second best result that we've ever posted.
Operating expenses increased $38 million for the fourth quarter. We saw fleet repair and maintenance lead the way again, up $32 million. We continue to increase our internal capacity to do more repair work ourselves.
We also expect the increase -- to increase the rotation of older trucks out of the fleet this year that will certainly help. And we're in good shape with the fleet going into the summer months.
Personnel costs increased $24 million. If you exclude comparisons with fiscal 2022, personnel costs are not out of line in relation to revenue compared to other years. Other expenses, including accident liability costs and the cost of freight and shipping experienced decreases during the quarter.
But we continue to have strong cash and liquidity. At the end of March of this year, we had cash along with availability from existing loan facilities at the Moving and Storage segment of $2,499 billion. In addition to this amount, we had another $225 million invested in 6-month U.S. treasuries that mature in June. Those are included in the investment line of our balance sheet net cash.
During the quarter, interest expense at Moving and Storage was up $13 million, while our interest income on earnings from these short-term investments increased $25 million. And for the year, interest expense was up $57 million, while interest income was up $68 million.
In our press release this quarter, we also included some additional information related to our debt. Our 10-K filing with the SEC -- our 10-K report with the SEC should be filed no later than this Friday. With that, I would like to hand the call back to our operator, Joe, to begin the question-and-answer portion of the call.

Question and Answer Session

Operator

(Operator Instructions)

Sebastien Reyes

Joe, while we aggregate the live questions, I'm going to ask a few questions or share some comments from Craig Inman of Artisan Partners who couldn't join today.
The first comment is, appreciate the updated disclosures on self-storage and leverage. On the real estate secured debt, can you disclose any metrics to give us a sense of the leverage levels there? Are those assets levered 80% or 20% as an example?

Jason Allen Berg

Sure. This is Jason. When we go out to the markets, Kevin Hart, our Assistant Treasurer, that oversees real estate financing, on stabilized deals, he's typically going out looking for something around no higher than 60% loan to value.
I would say the overall portfolio is going to be somewhere south of that, probably closer to 50% levered effectively. And if you were to mark the portfolio to market, we're going to be well underneath that percentage.

Sebastien Reyes

The second question, is there a leverage level at the business level, which would raise concerns for the Board or management?

Jason Allen Berg

Well -- this is Jason again. our key measurement for that is debt or net debt to EBITDA. And that's one of the measurements that we've now included in the press release this quarter.
On a gross basis, so not netting out cash, we look to keep that below 5x. And I think we're actually well below 4x right now.

Sebastien Reyes

And finally, it looks like some of the cost pressures outside of repair are leveling out. Is that true? Or are we seeing lower costs due to moving slowing? Any update on looking at the cost base, excluding the need to execute elevated repairs while waiting to refresh the fleet?

Edward Joseph Shoen

This is Joe. Of course, we're looking at the cost base. We've been through this drill before. There's always more costs that can be eliminated, in other words, waste. We're trying to ferret out waste.
At the same time, personnel, which is a big cost for us, is likely to continue to be just as big a cost as it has been, Jason, as a metric of personnel cost to revenue, and we're about at historic levels.
And I think we're very -- we're struggling to keep it at that level, I think it would be the fair way to put that. You all are familiar with what's happened with retail employment. It's still very much in turmoil. There's a very much a shortage of personnel, and we continue to try to access that pool of human beings to keep our stores and our dealerships running.

Sebastien Reyes

Operator, we'll turn the Q&A session back to you.

Operator

Our first question here will come from Steven Ralston with Zacks.

Steven Ralston

I wanted to dig a little deeper into those operating expenses. I'm trying to get a handle on it. Just looking myopically at the fourth quarter, I saw that the operating expense line was actually up 13%.
But the operating margin, which includes all the other operating expenses, the margin was very respectable for the fourth quarter since it's seasonally strong. It was at 9.3% and the year was 24.6%, which is solid. Could you just get a little deeper into that operating expense line and why it was up in the fourth quarter?

Jason Allen Berg

Steve, this is Jason. So the main drivers continue to be repair and maintenance and personnel. Those are the 2 largest increases that we saw. So I would say, of the 4 quarters that we had, from an operating margin variance perspective, the fourth quarter -- if you just look at operating expenses to revenue, it was not one of the better ones.
Repair and maintenance is running over historical levels. And for the quarter, personnel expense ran over the historical average. For the year, we were kind of right in line with it. So I would say the quarter was a little bit worse. The overall operating margin that you're measuring may take into good -- cost of goods sold.
And we had a good fourth quarter for cost of goods sold. There's a couple of things that go on at year-end and quarter end, including truing up your inventory for physical accounts and then also the adjustment for LIFO.
And the adjustment for LIFO this year was not nearly as negative as it was last year as we've seen some of the inflation on cost of goods sold slow down a bit.

Steven Ralston

Another line item. On -- depreciation popped up a little in the fourth quarter. Was that a reconciliation for the year? Or is there something operational when you said that you are acquiring more new vehicles?

Jason Allen Berg

It should be just more new vehicles.

Steven Ralston

And of course, net income has doubled since the first quarter, and you mentioned that is due to the treasury. So are you going to be more aggressive in cash management? There seems to be some easy low-hanging fruit there.

Jason Allen Berg

We're -- our funds are invested primarily in government money market funds, which are capturing much of this increased yield. We also have a $300 million, about $275 million with our banking partners, and that's largely indexed to interest rates.
So those have been going up. And then we did allocate $300 million to this treasury investment program where we're able to go out 12 months. Right now, it's only been making sense to go out 3 months and 6 months on those in order to capture a little bit of extra yield.
So -- yes, we've been aggressive in trying to get as much out of that as we can. If we had a time where -- to hold the excess cash for investment now has been a decent time to do that.

Steven Ralston

And last question. I noticed just looking at the variability of the self-moving business, and I'm talking about the trailers as opposed to the vehicles, and looking at your other revenue basically, U-Box, they seem to be tracking with the same -- directionally, I'll say.
But the magnitude of the other revenues is larger. In other words, there's more volatility in the U-Box business. Is that an accurate perception?

Edward Joseph Shoen

This is Joe. We don't really know how the U-Box business is going to track. Right now, we do more long distance moves relative to short distance moves if you're comparing U-Haul to U-Box. And so while we saw a flattening of U-Box in the third and fourth quarters, I think it's going to recover quicker than trucks because as soon as the longer-term users start to come back, they're going to come back in U-Box.
That's what I think. This is all a business subject to judgment. We don't have enough big U-Box revenues to compare and forecast on that sort of thing. It's still operational, all the signs I see are that it's starting to turn more pause that we had a slowing (inaudible) -- maybe 5 months this winter, It slowed down.
And I can't tell you that that's a trend or not a trend. I think it's going to pick back up. I think it will outpace truck rentals over a 5-year period.

Operator

(Operator Instructions)
Our next question here will come from Jamie Wilen with Wilen Management.

James R. Wilen

Can you give us some flavor on the April and May results in your businesses?

Jason Allen Berg

April and May are continuing to -- on the equipment rental business, are continuing to trend down compared to last year at this time, which was relatively strong. So again, I'm trying to keep things in perspective.
We haven't given -- we haven't come close to giving back all of the gains that we picked up over the last couple of years, but we're certainly giving back some of what we had last year.

James R. Wilen

Okay. I love the detail on self-storage. And you go into the revenue per square foot. How does that relate to the profit per square foot in those various geographies?

Jason Allen Berg

Well, on -- once you open up the facility, most of the costs are pretty well fixed. So much of that is going to run through to the bottom line. It's probably somewhere north of 80%.

James R. Wilen

Okay. So as -- go on.

Edward Joseph Shoen

When we look at the Texas and California, big spread. Okay? You [View] Page 6 of Jason's. And 1439 in Texas, 2066 in California. Everything in California cost 30% to 40% more if you're just [tied to sale].
And on the other hand, Texas has more proliferation of product which, of course, holds revenue down. So there's -- we're going to be in both markets, Jamie, because -- just because we're U-Haul, okay? But don't look at this and just say, "Oh hell, you ought to be building in California." When you see your expenses in California, I mean, you may just choke.
But we are building in California and we've -- of these properties that Jason talked about that are unbilled, we probably have 10 of those in California. And I expect everyone of them to be profitable, but we're going to probably have to get more than $20 or (inaudible) a foot to make them profitable. And hopefully, we pick the markets where we'll get those rates.

James R. Wilen

So as opposed to targeting specific markets, you're basically going to grow everywhere?

Edward Joseph Shoen

I think we are. And I mean, we -- Jason's team doesn't work up on every potential acquisition, and we do a forecast and of course, and try to, of course, accommodate what we think the rate environment is, what we think the rate environment is going to be going ahead.
And also, what's the mix of storage product in the area because there's more gradations of storage product than you might think. And so if we can get the right mix and we -- just we can pretty much predict where we're going to go. All these projects are being hit by the cost of capital.
Of course, we have some low cost capital right now. Jason has vowed to let us change our expected returns, because, of course, he's going to be faced with having to refinance with higher priced capital. So we take a, I think, still a conservative approach, but we're going to expand, I think, in every market, I'll say, except maybe New York City.
New York City is a -- certainly, Manhattan is a -- I don't know if anybody is making any money there or not. But you see us in Missouri, Indiana, of course, we've been all those markets and my field team can see opportunity, and if we can -- the financial model validates what they believe is going to happen, we're going to go ahead.

James R. Wilen

Okay. Now that you've broken out your various states with occupancy and revenue per foot, can you contrast this with some of your major competition as you look in that area of where you stand occupancy-wise and rate per foot?

Edward Joseph Shoen

We look at it. That's not we want to tell you. Of course, we look at it. I think that, again, has to -- when we look at it, it has to go down by comparing recent product with recent product or recent product with old product, and these markets run all over the place.
Public storage is massively strong in California, also has a ton of world of product in California that they're getting a rate of, which is very impressive to me because I don't see us getting quite that rate on older product. But they seem to from the numbers we see.
I think when we look at this, we look at the competition in a geographically constrained area, not the income for the whole state. So we'll look at the project in California. We're going to survey the facilities within what we think is the market area and we're going to attempt to be always in the upper third on rate, some rates would have to be in the upper 15% or 20% in California as in to get a new project to go.

James R. Wilen

So as you move forward, are you going to try to -- is the main goal to drive that occupancy percentage higher? And keep the revenue per foot in the same ballpark? Or will we see revenue per square foot declining a lot as you drive occupancy? What's the modus operandi you're going to favor?

Edward Joseph Shoen

We're not a drop revenue per square foot team. So we're not a big discount team or -- everybody has different strategies. A lot of people go in and they're 30% or 50% off for the first year. We don't do that ordinarily, Jamie.
We pretty much stick to a rate. We also are different than, I think, all of our significant competition. We publish our rate, we post it. So most of our competition is more like the hotel business there. Their rates will change several times a week. So we're not doing that. We post a rate and it's -- everybody believes their system is better. I'm not going to go crow about it. But I think our system has worked out well for us over years. And...

James R. Wilen

Okay. And you have purchased existing facilities from time to time. You just bought one in [Lansing]. What kind of multiple of EBITDA are you paying for these facilities? And are there always some synergies to every acquisition so that you're actually paying a little bit less than that?

Edward Joseph Shoen

I'll (inaudible) let Jason try to answer that.

Jason Allen Berg

So the -- over the last year, I would say the pricing has gotten a little bit better for existing self-storage that they -- I think we did a little over 1 million square feet this last year that we purchased of existing self-storage.
I believe the stabilized cap rate on that -- on those average, somewhere just under 7%, whereas the year before that, we were probably closer to 6% million. I think we did maybe 700,000 or 800,000 square feet the year before. So pricing. We don't do enough of it to get a real good flavor of that because you can have that big of a variance in cap rate just depending upon where you're buying it at. But it would seem that cap rates are trying to inch their way back up.

James R. Wilen

But you'd still prefer to develop as opposed to purchase?

Jason Allen Berg

Our -- well, I'll stick my nose in first, and just say from a financial perspective right now, we have better projected returns on conversions and ground-ups than we do existing storage more often than not.

James R. Wilen

Okay. And lastly, the initial lease-up of newer facilities had gone a lot quicker. Are they -- have they slowed down to the more historical rates, so it will take 3 to 4 years to reach that stabilized level?

Edward Joseph Shoen

I'm not going to totally agree with that. I think we're still leasing up at better than historical rates now. It's not over until your up from the 90s somewhere. And so typically, you get gains up to 60% pretty quick.
And then depending on a lot of different factors, you may struggle to go from 60% to 85%. If we've executed our plan right, we don't want to see the projects hit some sort of an invisible wall there. But that can happen if you aren't careful. So I think we're still leasing up faster than we did 5 years ago in, and let's say, kind of halfway comparable situation.
I think we're doing a better job of leasing up. Yes, and I think there's demand out there still. They're still -- depending -- it's geographically specific, Jamie, it's not -- anytime you try to generalize across a market like Phoenix, you just -- it's just hot air because some parts of town are just -- you've got a big opportunity. Other times, it's very, very competitive. So we're trying to sort those things out.

Jason Allen Berg

For properties that we've opened in the last 3 years, on average, we've picked up about 12 points of occupancy more than what we traditionally did in the first year, about 16 points in the second year, and then it starts to come back down to more normalized numbers after year 3.

James R. Wilen

Okay. And lastly, within some geographies, there's a bit of a moratorium on building new self-storage. Do you see the industry expansion slowing because of that, creating more opportunities for you? Or it's just more lip service in a couple of areas?

Edward Joseph Shoen

All the end use is a battle. I can't think of a place where there's not a battle for land use. And the absolute moratorium stick out, but there's de facto moratoriums in several markets.
They just grind you to a halt. They slow you down. We've got a real nice property in -- got one big one we got in LAH, and which -- what's the park, it's called...

Jason Allen Berg

Huntington Park.

Edward Joseph Shoen

Huntington Park. It's a historically industrial area, you think this would be a slam dunk. They've fought us for a year throwing everything they can at us because basically, they want someone to come in and put in residential on this property. And obviously, we're not a residential builder.
And so they've just thrown everything at it. This is historically, they were storing sea containers on it when we bought it. If that gives you an idea -- this is not a place you'd put residences. But the cities have their view of it. So they have -- they don't have a (inaudible) on moratorium, but to say they're hard on self-storage just to put it politely.
And that repeats, that just happens to be an expensive piece of property. So it's front of mind for me. But this is pretty much across the country. And I think it's experienced by all users. We may be at a somewhat disadvantage because if they like cell storage, they don't like trucks.
If they like trucks, they don't like self-storage. So we kind of have to more for our presentation, depending on what we think the proclivities of local land uses. But we have some places we only do truck rental, and we have some places we only do storage, but we believe that the combination is considerably more economical than the standalones. And so that's the way we bring it to most land uses.

James R. Wilen

Given the difficulty of adding new product, would you expect occupancy rates could see a little increase because of the -- not as much of an increase in supply as has happened over the last several years?

Edward Joseph Shoen

Well, that's my everlasting hope. But there's so much money out there, Jamie, and so many hustlers. People are building storage projects just to beat the band and -- amazingly, the market has absorbed this for the last 40 years.
We'll continue to have strong absorption over the next 5 years. I have no way to know. When we first did our estimate of the market, we estimated that 1 square foot per person. I mean, that's like embarrassing, okay? And so today, many markets are 20 square foot per person.
And so where is the real end of this, the Storage Association does some statistics that they are real proud of, and they think something like 11% of households are currently using self-storage. Well, I'll guarantee -- the only thing I'll guarantee is 11% won't hold market to market.
Does that make sense? So there's got to be some markets where it's 20% and there's going to be some markets where it's under 5%. We're trying to hunt out the 5% markets, obviously, and get in there and then hope to get a rate.

Operator

And this concludes our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the call back over to management for any closing remarks.

Edward Joseph Shoen

Well, I just thank everybody for being here. We have a good team in place. We're dug in for the long haul. I think we're going to be happy with our results over a extended measurement period, Tough for us to tell you what's going to happen this year for sure.
But I can guarantee you, we'll be on deck and working hard. So thank you for your support. Look forward to seeing you next quarter call.

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you very much for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines.

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