HII
Published on 05/01/2025 at 07:18
Q1 2025
Earnings Call
President and CEO
EVP and CFO
May 1, 2025
industry norms
Top priority to get these ships delivered to the Navy
Free cash flow1 growth enabling disciplined capital allocation and increasing total shareholder value
HII
INVESTMENT THESIS
Largest U.S. military seapower provider with leading
all-domain, integrated defense technologies
2025 Operational Initiatives Progressing
Enhancing Shipbuilding Throughput
» Targeting 20% overall throughput improvement over 2024
» Multiple workforce improvement initiatives
» Ramp up new South Carolina facility
» Increase outsourcing to trusted providers
» Utilize contract labor to address critical skill gaps
Reducing Cost
» $250M in annualized cost take out by year-end
» Overhead and support labor reduction
» Shared service and technology utilization
Acquired Production Site Near Charleston, SC
» Highly skilled workforce and well capitalized infrastructure
New Contract Awards
» Ensuring contract awards that reflect current operating environment
» Expect $50B+ in new awards across 2025 & 2026, including submarines, RCOH of CVN 75 and amphibious ship bundle
» Enhances capacity and throughput enabling improved build rates to meet generational customer demand
» Charleston shipbuilding ecosystem expanding with
U.S. Navy and other partner investments
» Quickly ramped carrier and submarine unit work after transaction close
HII Q1 2025 Revenue
Three Months Ended March 31
($M) 2024 2025 % Change
Ingalls Shipbuilding
655
637
(2.7%)
Newport News Shipbuilding
1,434
1,396
(2.6%)
Mission Technologies
750
735
(2.0%)
Eliminations
(34)
(34)
-
Total 2,805 2,734 (2.5%)
$2,805
$2,734
Q124 Q125
YoY variance driven by lower aircraft carrier and naval nuclear support volume at NNS, lower amphibious volume at Ingalls and lower C5ISR volume at Mission Technologies
HII Q1 2025 Segment Operating Income1
Three Months Ended March 31
($M) 2024 2025 % Change
Ingalls
Shipbuilding
60
46
(23.3%)
Newport News Shipbuilding
82
85
3.7%
Mission Technologies
28
40
42.9%
Total 170 171 0.6%
$170 $171
6.1%
6.3%
Q124 Q125
YoY variance driven by Mission Technologies performance in CEW&S and uncrewed systems, as well as
Virginia-class contract incentives and Columbia volume at NNS, offset by lower amphibious risk retirement at Ingalls
HII Q1 2025 Capital Deployment
$0 ($50)
($100)
($150)
($200)
($250)
($300)
($350)
($400)
($450)
($500)
($462)
$120
($67)
($202)
($274)
($395)
($72)
$100
$80
$60
$40
$20
$0
TOTAL
$51
$62
$53
$113
TOTAL
$53
Q124
Q125
Q124 Q125
Cash balance of $167 million and liquidity
of $1.5 billion at quarter end
Net capital expenditures of $67 million were 2.5% of revenues in Q1 2025
$53 million distributed to shareholders in Q1 2025
Paid dividends totaling $53 million
Did not repurchase shares in the quarter
HII Outlook1
Shipbuilding mid to long term5 revenue2 growth ~4%
Mission Technologies mid to long term5 revenue growth ~5%
Shipbuilding operating margin2 of 5.5% to 6.5%
Includes throughput, cost improvement and contract award assumptions
Free cash flow2,4 of $300M to $500M
Shipbuilding revenue2 of ~$2.2B and shipbuilding operating margin2 near the low end of the annual guidance range
Mission Technologies revenues flat sequentially; segment operating margin2 of 3.0% to 3.5%
Q1 2025 EARNINGS 8
1 The financial outlook, expectations and other forward looking statements provided by the company for 2025 and beyond reflect the company's judgment based on the information available at the time of this presentation.
2 Non-GAAP measures. See appendix for definitions. In reliance upon Item 10(e)(1)(i)(B) of Regulation S-K, reconciliations of forward-looking GAAP and non-GAAP measures are not provided because of the unreasonable effort associated with providing such reconciliations due to the variability in the occurrence and the amounts of certain components of GAAP and non-GAAP measures. For the same reasons, we are unable to address the significance of the unavailable information, which could be material to future results.
3 Outlook is based on current tax law. Repeal or deferral of requirement to capitalize R&D expenditures would result in elevated non-current state income tax expense.
4 Outlook is based on current tax law and assumes the requirement to capitalize R&D expenditures for tax purposes is not deferred or repealed. 8
5 Mid to long term growth represents our expected compounded annual growth rate over five to ten years.
Free cash flow2,4 of $200M to $300M
FY25 Outlook
Shipbuilding Revenue2
$8.9B - $9.1B
Shipbuilding Operating Margin2
5.5% - 6.5%
Mission Technologies Revenue
$2.9B - $3.1B
Mission Technologies Segment Operating Margin2
4.0% - 4.5%
Mission Technologies EBITDA Margin2
8.0% - 8.5%
Operating FAS/CAS Adjustment
($43M)
Non-current State Income Tax Benefit3
~$0M
Interest Expense
($130M)
Non-operating Retirement Benefit
$191M
Effective Tax Rate
~21%
Depreciation & Amortization
~$340M
Capital Expenditures
~4% of Sales
Free Cash Flow2,4
$300M - $500M
Appendix
Non-GAAP Information
We make reference to "free cash flow," "segment operating income," "segment operating margin," "shipbuilding revenue," "shipbuilding operating margin," "Mission Technologies EBITDA"
and "Mission Technologies EBITDA margin."
We internally manage our operations by reference to segment operating income and segment operating margin, which are not recognized measures under GAAP. When analyzing our operating performance, investors should use segment operating income and segment operating margin in addition to, and not as alternatives for, operating income and operating margin or any other performance measure presented in accordance with GAAP. They are measures that we use to evaluate our core operating performance. We believe that segment operating income and segment operating margin reflect additional ways of viewing aspects of our operations that, when viewed with our GAAP results, provide a more complete understanding of factors and trends affecting our business. We believe these measures are used by investors and are a useful indicator to measure our performance. Because not all companies use identical calculations, our presentation of segment operating income and segment operating margin may not be comparable to similarly titled measures of other companies.
Shipbuilding revenue, shipbuilding operating margin, Mission Technologies EBITDA and Mission Technologies EBITDA margin are not measures recognized under GAAP. They are measures that we use to evaluate our core operating performance. We believe that shipbuilding revenue, shipbuilding operating margin, Mission Technologies EBITDA and Mission Technologies EBITDA margin reflect additional ways of viewing aspects of our operations that, when viewed with our GAAP results, provide a more complete understanding of factors and trends affecting our business. When analyzing our operating performance, investors should use shipbuilding revenue, shipbuilding operating margin, Mission Technologies EBITDA and Mission Technologies EBITDA margin in addition to, and not as alternatives for, operating income and operating margin or any other performance measure presented in accordance with GAAP. We believe these measures are used by investors and are a useful indicator to measure our performance. Because not all companies use identical calculations, our presentation of shipbuilding revenue, shipbuilding operating margin, Mission Technologies EBITDA and Mission Technologies EBITDA margin may not be comparable to similarly titled measures of other companies.
Free cash flow is not a measure recognized under GAAP. Free cash flow has limitations as an analytical tool and should not be considered in isolation from, or as a substitute for, net earnings as a measure of our performance or net cash provided or used by operating activities as a measure of our liquidity. We believe free cash flow is an important measure for our investors because it provides them insight into our current and period-to-period performance and our ability to generate cash from continuing operations. We also use free cash flow as a key operating metric in assessing the performance of our business and as a key performance measure in evaluating management performance and determining incentive compensation. Free cash flow may not be comparable to similarly titled measures of other companies.
In reliance upon Item 10(e)(1)(i)(B) of Regulation S-K, reconciliations of forward-looking GAAP and non-GAAP measures are not provided because of the unreasonable effort associated with providing such reconciliations due to the variability in the occurrence and the amounts of certain components of GAAP and non-GAAP measures. For the same reasons, we are unable to address the significance of the unavailable information, which could be material to future results.
Non-GAAP Measures Definitions
Segment operating income is defined as operating income for the relevant segment(s) before the Operating FAS/CAS Adjustment and non-current state income taxes.
Segment operating margin is defined as segment operating income as a percentage of sales and service revenues.
Shipbuilding revenue is defined as the combined sales and service revenues from our Newport News Shipbuilding segment and Ingalls Shipbuilding segment.
Shipbuilding operating margin is defined as the combined segment operating income of our Newport News Shipbuilding segment and Ingalls Shipbuilding segment as a percentage of shipbuilding revenue.
Mission Technologies EBITDA is defined as Mission Technologies segment operating income before interest expense, income taxes, depreciation and amortization.
Mission Technologies EBITDA margin is defined as Mission Technologies EBITDA as a percentage of Mission Technologies revenues.
Free cash flow is defined as net cash provided by (used in) operating activities less capital expenditures net of related grant proceeds.
Operating FAS/CAS Adjustment is defined as the difference between the service cost component of our pension and other postretirement expense determined in accordance with GAAP (FAS) and our pension and other postretirement expense under U.S. Cost Accounting Standards (CAS).
Non-current state income taxes are defined as deferred state income taxes, which reflect the change in deferred state tax assets and liabilities and the tax expense or benefit associated with changes in state uncertain tax positions in the relevant period. These amounts are recorded within operating income. Current period state income tax expense is charged to contract costs and included in cost of sales and service revenues in segment operating income.
Certain of the financial measures we present are adjusted for the Operating FAS/CAS Adjustment and non-current state income taxes to reflect the company's performance based upon the pension costs and state tax expense charged to our contracts under CAS. We use these adjusted measures as internal measures of operating performance and for performance-based compensation decisions.
Non-GAAP Reconciliations
Segment Operating Income & Segment Operating Margin
Three Months Ended
March 31
($ in millions) 2025 2024
Ingalls revenues
637
655
Newport News revenues
1,396
1,434
Mission Technologies revenues
735
750
Intersegment eliminations (34) (34)
Sales and Service Revenues
2,734
2,805
Operating Income
161
154
Operating FAS/CAS Adjustment
10
17
Non-current state income taxes - (1)
Segment Operating Income
171
170
As a percentage of sales and service revenues
6.3 %
6.1 %
Ingalls segment operating income
46
60
As a percentage of Ingalls revenues
7.2 %
9.2 %
Newport News segment operating income
85
82
As a percentage of Newport News revenues
6.1 %
5.7 %
Mission Technologies segment operating income
40
28
As a percentage of Mission Technologies revenues
5.4 %
3.7 %
Non-GAAP Reconciliations Shipbuilding Revenues & Margin
Three Months Ended
March 31
($ in millions) 2025 2024
Sales and service revenues
2,734
2,805
Mission Technologies
(735)
(750)
Intersegment eliminations 34 34
Shipbuilding Revenues 2,033 2,089
Operating Income
161
154
Operating FAS/CAS Adjustment
10
17
Non-current state income taxes
- (1)
Segment Operating Income
171 170
Mission Technologies
(40) (28)
Shipbuilding operating income
131 142
As a precentage of shipbuilding revenues 6.4 % 6.8 %
Non-GAAP Reconciliations Free Cash Flow
Three Months Ended
March 31
($ in millions)
2025
2024
Net cash used in operating activities
Less capital expenditures:
(395)
(202)
Capital expenditure additions
(67)
(75)
Grant proceeds for capital expenditures - 3
Free cash flow (462) (274)
Non-GAAP Reconciliations
Mission Technologies EBITDA & EBITDA Margin
Three Months Ended
March 31
(in millions)
2025
2024
Mission Technologies sales and service revenues
735
750
Mission Technologies segment operating income
40
28
Mission Technologies depreciation expense
3
3
Mission Technologies amortization expense
22
25
Mission Technologies state tax expense 2 2
Mission Technologies EBITDA
67
58
Mission Technologies EBITDA margin
9.1 %
7.7 %
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